In the mid fifties I used to go with friends to the Century cinema in Pitsea, Essex, U.K. and see all kinds of weird and wonderful films. Mostly American serials like Batman, Marvel Man (Captain Marvel - are they the same?) Captain Video (my favourite) and other Republic serials long forgotten. Plus a feature which was either Abbot & Costello or Laurel & Hardy. Sometimes something from the Children's Film Foundation that wasn't quite as exciting. Also cartoons and maybe a short like The Three Stooges or Our Gang. We'd stop at the corner shop beforehand and buy enough sugary confection to last the two hours and no wonder I have so many fillings! Afterwards if I had any pocket money left I would go round to the market and buy some comics - usually inspired by what I'd just seen - Batman, Superman,Eerie Tales, etc. Happy Days!

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Wacky Races!

Does anyone remember the races they held at the Saturday Matinee? Each kid got a numbered ticket. The racing movie was a series of funny antics, different each week (horses, boats, cars, bathtubs, etc. - all crazy stuff). The winning kids got a prize. These races were really funny, although I can't remeber their name, maybe "Comedy Races?" I googled and found nothing. If you are over 65 or 70, you will remember them! All queries welcome!

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The Lost Matinee!

In our small town, we had our own "palace" - a large theatre with 1200 seats. I remember my mother taking me and my buddies to the Saturday afternoon kid shows. Films like THE LOST MISSILE, BLACK SHIELD OF FALWORTH, PRINCE VALIANT, GODZILLA vs MEGALON, and others were on the big screen.

Being quite small, very young and really not aware that films were just "a story tale on the screen", THE LOST MISSILE was a movie that I'll never forget, due to the intensity of this film which I had bad dreams from days on (now, I laugh on how campy and corny this film was..)

Then there were the comedy programs of the Three Stooges, Cartoon Festivals, live prize giveaways, special guest appearances from film and TV, and anything that the merchants of the town would sponser for these performances.

Later on about fifteen years, I became a projectionist at this same theatre. I remember running SANTA CLAUS CONQUERS THE MARTIANS, and how awful that film was. Yet, in a child's eye, that was quite the entetraining movie and many really liked that film. Now, I have that same disgusting movie in DVD - for memory's sake.

I remember, as the projectionist in my opening sequence of opening the curtain (and the kids would scream with delight), lights down and on with the film. Now, it seems like kid shows are just as that-plain old kids shows. No cartoons, no short subjects, no special kid movies of old (since they're not available for theatre release anymore) no merchant giveaways...nothing. That excitement is all but long and gone. It's now all relative to DVD and video releases for the kids to stay at home...for the "idiot box" to babysit them.

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Phantastic Pheonix!

Growing up in Phoenix, Arizona in the late 60s and early 70s, we had several venues for kiddie matinees. The first was on our local independent station, KPHO-TV Channel 5 (today it is a CBS affiliate). Every Saturday morning at 10:30 was "World Beyond" which featured sci-fi/horror films. There was no host. The title card was a photo of Earth from space with the instrumental beginning to Santana's "Black Magic Woman" playing in the background. Local newsman Stu Tracey provided the "host's" voice. They would play lots of Japanese sci-fi such as "Starman" and various Godzilla films, notably "Godzilla vs. the Thing". A perennial favorite was "First Men in the Moon".

Phoenix was also the home of the great "Wallace & Ladmo" Show. It ran on Valley TV from 1954 to 1989. It wasn't really a "kid's show" per se. Yes, they showed cartoons, but it was more like "Saturday Night Live" with satirical sketches between the cartoons. Wallace & Ladmo would do stage shows at several local theatres. There would be a Saturday morning double feature with an intermission stage show featuring Wallace & Ladmo and their numerous characters. Since I grew up on the west side, I used to go to the Fox Chris-Town Theatres. The one film that I remembered scaring me to tears was "The Manster". The theatre would be packed. Moms would drop off the kids about 9 a.m. and come back for us in mid-afternoon.

Another local theatre was the Loew's Hayden West Theatre at Hayden West Plaza. They would have Saturday kid movie matinees. I remember seeing "Captain Sinbad" with Guy Williams along with numerous Disney live-action films such as "Now You See Him, Now You Don't," "The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes", and The Legend of Boggy Creek."

Thank you for letting me share a little of my childhood.

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Creepy Classics!

When I first was left alone to see a Saturday matinee, it was 35 cents at the Guthrie Theatre in Grove City, PA. Movies I saw at this time included a re-release of THE SEVENTH VOYAGE OF SINBAD, SANTA CLAUS (The Mexican movie where he battles the devil), RUMPLESTILTSKIN (another K. Gordon Murray import), LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD AND TOM THUMB (later re-titled appropriately LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD MEETS THE MONSTERS!). Also, TARZAN THE MAGNIFICENT....and JOURNEY TO THE BEGINNING OF TIME...kids on a raft traveling back in time and meeting dinosaurs!

Then, a few years later, when I was about 12 in State College, PA... it was GAMERA - THE INVINCIBLE, WAR OF THE GARGANTUAS, GODZILLA VS. THE SMOG MONSTER, DESTROY ALL MONSTERS. Plus, at this time there were premium toys; things like plastic fangs, little puzzles with moveable squares that would form a scary face, glowing things and the like. Just little trinkets. But, boy did this make it fun.

They used to run a lot of Warner Brothers cartoons and Three Stooges shorts before the feature. I miss those days...

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Santa Claus Memories...

It's all quite odd really. To tell the truth, I was born in 1989 so the olden days of the Kiddie Matinee were long gone. But for my generation, I had plenty of cinematic perks. It'll be a delight when I'm 80 and proudly say I remembered when you could see a movie at the dollar theatre! Luckily, I was exposed to wonderful children's cinema as a child. My first memory was seeing "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves" in that dumpy little theatre and loving every minute of it. I saw a lot of the old Disney films there and I think it defiantly was a factor in making me want to be a film director. A dream I've had since I was about six. So, my K. Gordon Murray story... It was around December of 1993, I was four at the time and the mall in my town was packed. My mother, doing some last minute shopping suddenly found a bin. Not just any bin. But a bin filled with movies. Christmas movies! And they were priced at a dollar each. Well, my mother just couldn't resist. She blindly grabbed a couple and bought them. It was a snowy night. The fire was lit and the Christmas tree was by the window. The pile of videos my mom had just bought were at the table. My sister and me picked a movie that looked appealing, it was called SANTA CLAUS.

So mother popped it in. It wasn't until it started playing that I noticed what looked like Satan in the background of the video jacket. What our family (except my father, who hated children's films) saw was indeed shocking. The movie's condition was terrible, like some strange 8mm film that had been hidden in a damp cellar. I remember it being the first dubbed movie I had ever seen, and to this day, the worst. I remember how frightening and un- jolly the Santa Claus was. I didn't understand why there were so many kids in his workshop, I always thought they were elves. And why wasn't he at the North Pole? I mean, floating castles? Come on! I remember how the little red devil man scared the living s**t out of me and over time, became a frequent visitor of my nightmares! But the one scene I can most clearly remember is the scene where Santa brings this little boy into a weird laboratory with a glass window, and this little boy wishes for parents. Then these awful foil boxes appear and this man and woman rise up in a zombie-like fashion. It scared the crap out of me and still thinking about it gives me chills. I remember being shocked at how religious the movie was. From an impressionable child who'd been watching Disney Films and THE WIZARD OF OZ in an obsessive state had never heard the word "Jesus", "Hell", or "Satan" in a film made for children. And the brief images of hell in the movie etched a Catholic idea of it in my head for years until my ideas on religion eventually changed. Till I was at least 6, I had seen the film at least 3 times and each time watching it in complete and utter terror. I almost thank my mother for ridding the movie from the house by selling it at a yard sale. It had then been 8 years. It was two Christmas' ago now. I was browsing around the computer. An image suddenly came into my head. A picture of Satan and Santa. It came a bit like a jig saw puzzle. Image after image starting coming together. I swear, I had never been so creeped out in my entire life. I felt like one of those people who'd been abducted by aliens and just started remembering it! Well, after a lot of searching and a LOT of questioning of my family, including my mother, I found this wonderful web site and I'm so glad I did. In a way, this site has helped me resolve what was then a traumatic experience and make it wonderful by your extensive research, wonderful pictures and intelligent reviews. Now I can appreciate this film, almost adore it dearly. Come to think of it, I would probably have been a very different person, a normal person, without the help of a truly weird film like SANTA CLAUS.

(We can certainly thank K. Gordon Murray, and SANTA CLAUS, for saving thousands of children all over the world from being "normal", a fate worse than death! Yech!)

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European Smorgasbord!

Willy Birgil of HEIDI and HEIDI AND PETER, and Theo Lingen of HEIDI AND PETER, were big stars in the German cinema since the 1930's, so I presume they were like "guest stars" in these Swiss films.

I remember one film at the Coolidge Corner Theatre, where I saw all my matinee movies, THE WISHING MACHINE (1971), where two children who want to go to the Moon are arrested by some army for "an unauthorized trip to the Moon." As this was an Eastern European film, I wonder if that army was supposed to be NATO.

And I saw the DEFA-lensed PINOCCHIO, with the scene where the kids in Boobyland [or wherever] aren't allowed to work. I bet this was Socialist propaganda, though few stateside viewers would pick that up.

But I really used to wonder where some of these films were coming from. Another I saw was called "Castle in the Clouds" (probably KINGDOM IN THE CLOUDS; 1972), with a seemingly psychotic bad guy. I saw HEIDI AND PETER on Boston TV in the 1960's, and there used to be a budget videocassette of the film. I managed to see the West German CINDERELLA as well, but had expected to see the Disney cartoon. Coolidge Corner always used to show a really worn ad for "WEECHIE WAKKI SPRINGS" orange juice, in a plastic orange. The film was so faded the oranges looked green.

I have had the pleasure of visiting the Bablesberg film studios in Berlin, where many of the German children's films (East German ones, to be specific) were made. When the children's films were made there it was called DEFA, before 1945 it was UFA (the old UFA relocated to Munich after the war) and today it is just Filmstudios Bablesberg. THE PIANIST and some other movies have been shot there, as well as talk shows, other TV series', and-still-animated puppet films. "The Sandman" series is the best known of them.

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Ray Dennis Steckler and the Monsters!!!

We had two theaters in the late 1960's/early 1970's that catered to the Kiddie Matinee market: The Parkwood Plaza and The Beacham. The Parkwood was more of a large, neighborhood theater, with elevated steps going up to the deck, a foyer (!) for waiting for the next show (with a TV set!), fully loaded snack bar and uniformed ushers. The Beacham is one of those classic,old-style theaters from the 1930's, with procenium stage, gothic archway over the screen, and a balcony. We were treated to most of the classic movies covered in this forum, but I have noticed that there have been no mention of the mind-twisting world of Ray Dennis Steckler!

Yes indeed, rumors flew about the zombies entering the audience during Steckler's INCREDIBLE STRANGE CREATURES... and unfortunately, my protective parents wouldn't allow me to go (!?!) to this feature, but LEMON GROVE KIDS MEET THE MONSTERS popped-up about two months later. Now, this was in the late 1960's, so I was about to enter my glorious teen years and felt a little miffed that I couldn't go. This did not deter my efforts to see LEMON GROVE KIDS a bit later.

Did I know about Ray Dennis Steckler? As an avid reader of "Famous Monsters of FIlmland" magazine, of course I did! Seeing LEMON GROVE KIDS was a revelation. It was obvious that it was not Hollywood product, and I imagined at the time that it was a series of home movies strung together into a feature (How intuitive!). I noticed the obvious nods to The Bowery Boys, and enjoyed the bouncy energy of the shenanigans. Years later I purchased the video, and can enjoy the days once again.

I guess Steckler himself came with masks and costumes for INCREDIBLY STRANGE CREATURES..., but as I said, my parents wouldn't let me go (strange that THAT movie played at a Kiddie Matinee!), and the Forbidden Fruit was thrust in front of me. There were a lot of Kiddie Matinees at the time that were recycled monster and sci-fi movies from the 1950's and 1960's that played in Orlando, Florida. The Steckler films were the oddest, and the K. Gordon Murray films ranked a close second!

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Kiddie Matinee TV!

Of the children's films listed on your site, I saw nine as a child, but not in a theater. KTLA-TV in Los Angeles, California was an independent station from the 1950's until the 1990's, when it became a WB network channel. Now it is a Spanish-language broadcaster.

However, during the 1970's and 1980's, they would run "matinee movies" on the weekends, and the movies were hosted by Tom Hatten, bit actor in a million Hollywood films. Hatten would sit next to film projector in a set which looked like a den, introducing each film and telling the viewer some bit of trivia about it, or showing production stills of the movie from his scrapbook.

To "start" or "continue" the film, Hatten would start the projector and the studio camera would zoom into the blinding light... Through Hatten I saw a lot of Jerry Lewis movies, all the Don Knotts kiddie films (from "The Incredible Mr. Limpet" to "How to Frame a Figg"), all the Swedish Pippi Longstocking movies, "The Daydreamer" and "Pinocchio in Outer Space", along with two of Rudolf Zhetgruber's "Wonderbeetle" movies (I think there are three or four.)

During the Christmas season sometime in the 1980's he even dragged Pia Zadora into the studio to discuss her work in "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians" after the film became a holiday staple on KTLA!

Because the station ran Three Stooges shorts, Hatten also ran all of the Three Stooges movies. In short, I think Hatten gave better than he got (hosting Popeye cartoons on weekend mornings, running B-movies in the afternoons.)

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The Clown and the Kids

I first saw this film at the old Wakefield Movie Theater in The Bronx, New York, back in 1970. I loved it! I was also lucky enough to see Emmett Kelly there in person. He only stopped long enough to say "Hello!" and to encourage us all to "hiss" and "boo" the villain. It was an experience that I will always treasure.

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Santa Claus Conquers the Martians

I saw this film upon its 1964 release, when I was four. The film was being shown at the Loew's King theater in Brooklyn (New York), a gigantic movie palace which, next to Radio City Music Hall, provided me with my earliest and most memorable film experiences.

While details are vague, the ushers selected various children (and whoever accompanied them) upon entry to the theater to sit in special pre-designated seats down front, and I was one of those kids.

Before the film began, "Santa Claus" appeared on stage, in person, and with him two "Martian" kids, in costume as the characters from the film. "Santa" was looking for two "earth-children" to receive an armload of toys and promotional items (courtesy of Macy's Department Store, which had a branch just down the block from the theater) and the uproar from the audience of children was at once horrifying and wonderful!

Cleverly, to avoid a stampede, Santa asked all the pre-selected contestants (from the front row) to come on stage, and we all did --- and we were lined up in a row. (I think there were ten or so of us.) Santa went down the line with a microphone, shaking our little hands and asking our names (I have no memory of this myself, unfortunately!) and then announced there would be a contest to pick the two winners.

The contest was that each child was given two saltine crackers and, at the given signal, had to chew them and then the first two children who managed to whistle --- audibly --- would be the winners.

There was then a good deal of chewing, and spitting out of cracker crumbs, and then two weak salty whistles --- neither of which were mine.

Being four, (and I'm surprised I even got this far in the contest), I'm not sure I even knew how to whistle --- but I remember being quite upset and indignant at then being asked to leave the stage with the losers! But wait, nobody leaves the Loew's King Theater Stage a loser! All the runner-ups were given a large, very large, candy cane and a comic book novelization of the film.

I do remember, that as the losers left the stage, the film's theme song ("Hooray for Santa Claus") was played and reverberated throughout the gargantuan theater.

Beyond that, my memory fades --- (perhaps due to a sugar induced high from the candy cane?) --- and it wasn't until many years later, when I saw the film on television, that I remembered seeing it at all.

Ah, happy days...

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Little Red Riding Hood, Puss 'n Boots

I saw two or three K. Gordon Murray fairy tales around 1975 or 1976, when I was 8 or 9, and they have haunted me ever since. The movies were PUSS 'N BOOTS, and LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD AND HER FRIENDS, and LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD AND THE MONSTERS.

I was living on Kwajalein, a 3-mile long US army base island in the Pacific Ocean. The island had no TV until mid-1977, so movies were a very important part of our lives. There were 6 or 7 theaters on the tiny island, and movies would rotate through all of the theaters over a week and then be gone.

One theater, the Ivey, was reserved for kids films. Usually the same film would play at a Saturday and Sunday matinee, and the kids would see each film twice. Most of these films were from the vast Disney archives. Once in a while we got an oddity like SANTA CLAUS CONQUERS THE MARTIANS or KING KONG ESCAPES.

BUT...these Mexican films stood out as truly different. For one thing, they were so violent!!! My parents forbade me from watching violent PG or R films, so I was deeply traumatized by PUSS 'N BOOTS, which begins with a poor guy getting whipped to death...

And then, if I recall, the young male hero's dad gets pinned and killed under a falling tree. I can still hum the tune that the princess sang. I believe she sang it to some flowers, who sang back. I loved it.

I remember all the kids in the audience whooping with laughter when Mother Time said something like, "Now you will be happy...and GAY!"

It was obvious to us little kids that these films were from Mexico... and I have no idea how we would have been hip to that. Maybe because the attitudes were so weird. I remember that Mother Time's castle seemed to be made out of pink papier mache covered with saran wrap. I'd never seen anything like it. I didn't think it was good or bad, more like it was from another planet!

I also recall that the editing in PUSS 'N BOOTS was so jarring in places that I thought I had blinked and missed things: You don't really see the tree hit the father, you just see him pinned under it. I went back specifically to see if I had blinked and missed it. Likewise, at some point the Ogre's cart gets bumped and Butterball falls out and cries for awhile. Either the print I saw had a hole in it, or this was too hard to really film and the crucial moment of action was left out. We just see the before and after.

I recall the wolf eating the tablecloth in LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD AND HER FRIENDS, and I liked when the grandmother beat him. I'd forgotten about the strange part where the wolf attacks townspeople, but it all comes back now. It was gripping, terrifying, unexepected, and addictive. I remember a nightmare I had from that era where a wolf was seen sitting next to a crying, decapitated baby head. I'm sure it was suggested by this film.... Actually, it sounds like the first film actually had scenes close to my nighmare, but I'm pretty sure I didn't see it.

I do remember seeing the beginning of LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD AND THE MONSTERS. I recall that the production values were much higher, the colors richer and warmer, much more like 40's style technicolor. I seem to recall that the film seemed to start in the middle of the action, with the wolf and skunk already in some big castle with fire or candles in it. And I recall that when we first saw the skunk, all the kids in the audience cheered, because we loved him from the previous film.

BUT...the weird thing is that that's all that I remember!!! I have the feeling that I didn't get to see the rest of it. Either I was yanked out of the theater, or, more likely, something went wrong with the film. The projector most likely shut down right around the time that the skunk first appeared. There was a technical problem, and it might have had something to do with the sound.

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The Secret Garden, Superargo vs. The Faceless Giants, and many more!!!

Being a child of the 1960's, I saw my share of Kiddie Matinees. The first two were MARY POPPINS (1964) and THE SOUND OF MUSIC (1965), followed by ZEBRA IN THE KITCHEN (1965) and a re-issue of THE ABSENT-MINDED PROFESSOR (R-1966). Beyond ...PROFESSOR I won't include, but I am sure I saw every consecutive Disney release or re-issue, usually at a Kiddie Matinee (for something like SWISS FAMILY ROBINSON or 20,000 LEAGUES), where the line would often stretch down the block and around the corner.

There used to be quite a few MGM Kiddie Matinees in the early 1970's. I attended THE SECRET GARDEN (1949) in the fall of 1972. My mom was a big fan of Margaret O'Brien, and I had seen part of it on TV one time. I got her to take me somehow. We had to go 25 miles north to Columbus, Ohio. We never forgot "the laughing maid" played by Elsa Lanchester (who I would soon see the following year as Willard's mother in WILLARD and not realize she was also THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN!).

THE SECRET GARDEN was probably the oldest film I'd ever seen on the screen at that time, other than Disney re-issues. And this was mostly in black and white, too. Imagine getting kids into a theater for a 25 year-old B&W flick today!

Before THE SECRET GARDEN, they showed a preview for the next matinee: FORBIDDEN PLANET. And THE WIZARD OF OZ was also part of this package, as well as LASSIE COME HOME. I know there were also MGM theatrical showings of DR. JEKYLL AND MR. HYDE (with Fredric March) and MASK OF FU MANCHU (with Boris Karloff), but I don't know if that package was part of the MGM "Children's Matinee" series???

Another Kiddie Matinee offering: SUPER ARGO AND THE FACELESS GIANTS, in the fall of 1972! That's right, but we walked out! This was advertised as a showing of the original 1933 KING KONG. Once they had everyone's asses in the door and popcorn sold, only then did the theater owner walk down the aisle to say, "We're sorry, but King Kong couldn't make it, so he sent his friend SUPERARGO." He told us we could only get our money back during the first ten minutes. 12 years old and not being Psychotronically inclined at the time, this looked pretty strange to us. So me, my sister and her friend decided to get our .50c back. Instead, we went toy shopping at the hardware next door. Of course, I'd jump to see Superargo on the big screen right now!

Some others: the Mexican SANTA CLAUS, KING KONG vs. GODZILLA, PIPPI LONGSTOCKING, DISNEY CARTOON PARADE (2 hours of cartoons in 35mm!), OLIVER, WHICH WAY TO THE FRONT? (a FREE Kiddie Matinee of this DREADFUL FILM, another one we almost walked out on!), THE BLOB (this was the first time I was ever allowed to walk downtown with a friend to see a film. 50 cents! I had already seen THE BLOB on TV, but it was wild seeing this on the big screen. GREAT PRINT, too. And about 1975, there was the series of UNIVERSAL features shown as Kiddie Matinees. I saw MUNSTER GO HOME, McHALE'S NAVY and THE GHOST AND MR. CHICKEN.

I also ran across the list of films we saw projected in 16mm when I was in school. There were often weekend feature films shown for a quarter in the school auditorium. I only went one time to see: PINOCCHIO IN OUTER SPACE. These others were all shown during class time: THE COMPUTER WORE TENNIS SHOES, THE BAREFOOT EXECUTIVE, GOOD NEIGHBOR SAM (!). Those three we saw in the big auditorium as a reward for good behavior. In Literature classes, we saw 1984, FAIL SAFE, JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR, THE RED BADGE OF COURAGE, THE OLD MAN AND THE SEA, LORD JIM, WUTHERING HEIGHTS. I had never seen WUTHERING HEIGHTS. This was the original 1939 version with Lawrence Olivier and I was just blown away. This viewing deepened my love of old movies.

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Mad Monster Party?, Thunderbirds Are GO!,
Journey to the Beginning of Time

Me and my pal Jonny used to go to the Kiddie Matinee all the time in the late 1960's and early 1970's. Our neighborhood theatre, the Community, was strictly second-run, so we saw alot of weird and unusual stuff, along with the occasional Disney film.

There were two matinee shows on weekends, 1pm and 3pm, and we would try to get to the first show, so that if we liked the movie, we could see it again. We saw MAD MONSTER PARTY? twice in a row, for instance, because we just slunk down in our seats, and nobody noticed we were there!

We went to see THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO! in 1968, and the curtain wouldn't open! Yes, they used to have an actual curtain rise before the show! They got the Fire Department to come and look at it. These firemen got up on this tall ladder, but they couldn't fix it. The manager gave us free passes for the next two shows, and told everyone to come back on Sunday.

By Sunday, they had fixed the curtain, and we finaly got to see THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO!, which blew our minds! Seeing our favorite TV show blown up to the big screen was incredible! Needless to say, we stayed for the second show.

Later that year, we went to see JOURNEY TO THE BEGINNING OF TIME. We got to the second show this time, because we were busy before. The 1pm audience had left a huge mess of snacks, and we were the only two kids that came to see the 3pm show!

The usher came up to us and made us a deal: if we would stay after the show and clean the place up, he could leave. In exchange, he would give us a week's worth of passes! We agreed quickly, and sat down to the show.

First, they showed NINE cartoons! We counted them, and we couldn't believe it. Some really old ones too, and one in black and white!

Finally we saw the main feature, which we enjoyed immensely. With its great stop-motion dinosaurs, it reminded us alot of films we saw on TV, like THE BEAST FROM 20,000 FATHOMS.

After the film ended, we cleaned up the auditorium. It was so cool, being in an empty movie theatre. Jonny swept up with the broom, and I went around with the rolling trash can and picked up all the boxes and stuff. We were done in ten minutes, and the projectionist let us out the back door. What a cool day!

Send us your Kiddie Matinee memories, and we will post them!